What do us GIRLZ want?

[Drofgod969]

I agree with Ashton and the others. Besides i am sure some of the other guys wouldn't mind seeing there avatars in some pinups.
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[Neon]

While I am a female member here and have no clue of the numbers of our male and female members here, I do think that it would be nice if we had some additional pinups of the male characters of Bon Bon. I want would like to have some varitety here. Then again, it's really up to Vanessa (and then again, it would hurt to ask her ).

[Caroline]

((As lame as it sounds... I'd like to see a date. With William and Mary. I mean, it would be pretty awesome.

Something along the lines that Mary convinces William to help her sneak out of the house, and see the town... Maybe Mary just wants to look around, while she's waiting for Red to reurn again or something. Anyhow, so.. what starts out as just Mary cajoling William to help her sneak out, becomes... a date.

They could do stuff like goto the zoo... play hopskotch with some of the kids... have caracatures of themselves drawn in charcoal... play croquet... eat icecream along a bridge all sorts of stuff... ala the date montage from the movie "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid".

And the plot possibilities are endless. Mary, who starts off still all... huffy over past events with William realizes how much of a gentleman William is, and, thusly, starts to have affections for the "gay" butler. Which can lead to all sorts of love-triangle complications, to an already complicated love-tetrahedron.

So... I'd love to see a date with William and Mary. Yeah, I know... lamely romantic. Sue me. I'm goth. I like romantic stuff.

And a swimming competition I mean, okay, guys don't want to see Beefcake... but if they're competing to see who is the best swimmer at Bon Bon Lake or something, they'd have to be in swimtrunks, right? You don't go swimming fully clothed. ))

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[The Adept]

dude crimson would win the swim race he can use his wings as oars and propel himself to victory
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you forgot about another bat member who could win or draw with crimson.
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Grantos would give me a run for my money lol
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[Mr Writer]

im a fan of her artwork, but it is a business. gotta do what the consumer demands.

on a side note tho, i would like to see a few male pinups. also bat for home and away and would love to have that change of pace. As for members being pinups, well i attained my royal status just recently and dont really know how that works yet, but i can imagin a few guys id like to see in provocative poses and outfits
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[henkcobra]

I already talked this with Vanessa and Ronald about male pin ups or some gay scene in the comic.

They told me that most of the viewers will not like it and maybe end there membership.

So now you see a big side effect of a hereto society. Sex between females is allowed but sex between males is not allowed and why? Because males are dirty.

and when 2 woman have sex there must be a male who has to take control about the situation and put the woman into a submission role and he has to take the dominate role.

Damm what is polities hard.
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[Ashton Gray]

Like I said, all this talk is moot until Vanessa changes her policy on such artwork.
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[Gerbilcheeks]

hrrmm..I think it might have a little to do with keeping the site from getting overrun with non heterosexual males demanding male gay artwork.

The homosexual furry community is akin to the BORG in its appetite and force. I have seen it operate so I Know what it can do. I respect Vanessas rules to keep a heterosexual based comic, But it bothers me that she is useing the excuse of Heterosexual membership cancellation, because the small amount of hets that would actually cancel would never be noticed under the large amount of gay furries signing on and taking over They would immediately start assimilating the furries here.

[xxthalexx]

I'm sure none of us are demanding that she make Gay artwork. We were simply voicing our opinions on whether or not, we'd like too see it.
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[Symphony]

I don't think that I have come across a comment by Vanessa about her being afraid that heterosexual males might cancel their subscription, so it might not be correct to claim that it is indeed her opinion.

All I can recall is her comment here:
http://forums.pleasurebonbon.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=53794

She only mentions sex between male characters, though.
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A summary of the discussion so far:

Woman:

"I want male pin-ups too!"

Several other women:

"Heterosexual men can't handle male pin-ups and will stop paying for the site if any is added."

Several men:

"We don't mind, bring it on!"

Woman:

"Since men can't handle male nudity, maybe we could hide it in something men love, like physical competition!"

Female artist and site-owner (together with someone I would guess is a man at least):

"Heterosexual men can't handle male pin-ups, so we can't do it."

So far, no man has said he would cancel his subscription due to there being male pin-ups on the site. So where does this notion (among women) come from?

Reminds me of my girlfriends reaction when I told her one of my friends who tends to be cuddly might be gay. For all that the gay men are loved by the women as friends and icons, it's obviously important that we straight men don't cosy up "to much" to them. No wonder there are a lot of insecure guys who have this great urge to show the world that they are not gay by hating everything (male) homosexual. It's all about giving the ladies what they want...

Personally, I believe Gerbilcheeks is right. The male homosexual furry community could probably support this site just as easily as the heterosexual community. But then again, maybe Vanessa simply doesn't like to draw that kind of stuff? Maybe it's she that prefers to draw women and heterosexual situations?

And if that's the case, then there is nothing wrong with it. But I don't think it should be hidden behind a claim of male homophobia and intolerance.

As for drawing a male pin-up or two, that will of course not be enough for the gay-community, but neither is it likely to scare away any greater number of heterosexual men. I don't think those guys (the ones that are so disgusted by the very presence of pictures of naked men the don't have to look at, that they would cancel their membership) would go for the rather effeminate male characters that already make out the main male cast of the comic.

[Caroline]

((While I think I was the one to suggest some sort of non-nude-but-beefcakey-competition, I do believe that you missed the bigger part of my post.

What I'd really like to see would be a date montage between Mary and William. ))

[mackwell]

I'm sorry, but an open sexual intercourse between males does not correspond to the concept of the site as it was conceived, although of course there will be innuendos and the like. Moreover, the "entertainment staff" of the Delight Castle is composed only by girls...( except for Ronald and Jeff for now).





thats what vanessa said. right there.


and as symphony says its in the link
http://forums.pleasurebonbon.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=53794

go check it out for yourself. vanessa wont do an actual scene like that. there may be hints to it but if i'm reading this right then there wont ever be an actual scene.

but i am pretty stupid so idk
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[goddess-ofthe-night]

What i meant with my topic was

a few royal male pinups, meaning in sexy pants or something, some chestwork

tht's how people seemed to understood me i think.

i aint talking about gay talk, i just click for fA if i want to see that (no offense guys i have nothing against gay images, but i can't see the 'intercourses' myself i'm afraid,)

as for my topic, i was talking
that always the ROYAL woman and pbb woman can chosen in actions,
it's always betty X royal guy or royal girl X royal guy

and i kind of feel left out, i'm here member for years, ok i aint a royal member but does anyone think of tiny lil me? t-t

that's what i meant, and not only that, i'm sure there more members who wish to join those fun thingies too, even if we don't get picked :/
there members on forum that contrubute long like i have that arn't member, so i really keep thinking, they must feel a lil left out like i do.

hence i even get critique about it when i try to 'merge'myself into a few pbb things, I'm not going to go very deeply into that, but Ashton already refered me as hyper sensitive, adn I am for real a hyper sensitive person.
But each time I try to get 'into' and make some 'effort' i get these 'hidden' remarks of saying SHORTLY ': NO

sorry this had to get off my chest, it's been bugging me for weeks now;.. >_>
and if my english sucks, yeah i know. i'm from Belgium, i'm dutch speakin' I aint got a high degree in english though i did mention to get an A- each time, or how you call it.

sorry i'm just gah, right now.
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[xivk]

Think she meant how the women seem to pick what goes on most of the time and are shown most often and would like a slight favor of men shown more often. @_@

And dont think its as much her wanting to be in a sexual scene, just to be noticed more often than the other ladies here who would be in a situation as that and get noticed more.
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[xivk]

Pissed off goddess is angry. x_x

Just go back to a simple talk of wouldnt the girls like to see men in sexy clothing for their enjoyment, yes?. <_<
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[goddess-ofthe-night]

s'not the first time i have to read comments like that
and it's not the first time it came from you either.

i really feel like i have to swallow a lot and hold my tongue.
and my chara's supernatural probably but not inside pbb and I choose with whom and what i want to have 'sex' with.
just like how you often state it yourself.


I changed my chara for pbb for one thing and that would be the comic i'm doing in the section, you know that lil old thing, that i even want to quit I even send mail to remove it, cause that's how good i feel about it.

And i'm not going to change my art nor my chara for anyone, I just only choosed her nickname to be there on this forum.

But i'm tired of reading everytime how i get pushed aside,
but yeah, i'm used to it just tired of letting it happen over and over and over again with those comments.

If you maybe read my describtion on the avatar's request you read that my chara doens't even have powers to be on pbb, that's how i changed it, i even asked: 'would you like it if she'd do a stand up comedian'?
so i could find a lil spot.

that's how considerate i was.

I'm not going to appoligize for my burts against you, cause i had to swallow already a few comments like these coming from you and another royal members. I'm really getting tired of it.
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[Symphony]

I'd appreciate if you can please let me know where I have ever insulted you or your fursona. All I have done here is treat you like everyone else, and said that there are things that Vanessa has said aren't okay in avatars. You're not the first to be informed of these things, so I really don't understand why you choose to make it personal and say how mean I've been to you.

I really do not like being accused of something I haven't done. It's easy for you to say that I've said this or that, because there's no real way for me to defend myself against it, if you won't even give me the chance to explain myself or defend my actions if I don't know where I've done something wrong.
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