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 Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:20 am Post subject: Question for Vanessa: females in heat in Bon Bon |
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This is something I've been thinking of. You've mentioned in the past how the females go through periods where they avoid sex with males of the same species, so they won't get pregnant. Can this period be considered heat? There's also the subject of whether Mary is in heat in the comic, and if that plays a role in how she behaves around William, and how he reacted to her scent when he arrived at the Blue manor.
I've written a section about how Constance behaves while in heat in my fursona thread, as I like the thought of it. So I'd just like to know whether you consider the females of Bon Bon to be in heat at certain times, and how it affects them.
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That would make for an interesting piece I can make about Mystic too. There are times when she's just into her species, and other times when she's all about other species.
A bit more of your outlook on women in heat would be appreciated, Vanessa.
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| Mystic wrote: | That would make for an interesting piece I can make about Mystic too. There are times when she's just into her species, and other times when she's all about other species.
A bit more of your outlook on women in heat would be appreciated, Vanessa. |
I agree!
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Not just women, ya know now, Hermaphrodites as well ^_~.
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uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh interesting. Good thing my chara can't get pregnant, she's still waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to young...
Around 3400, ...
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That's easy: once a year the ladies go into heat. That
means that they become WAY more aroused, and feel a need to
reproduce. Many go into heat in spring, but that isn't
always the case. That's it,no more, no less. 
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Now i know not to come to town during spring. >.>
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How's it affect the birthrate? In absolute terms, probably not much. In seasonal terms, definitely.
Most animals that follow this type of behavior go into estrous early spring, followed by a few weeks to a couple months of pregnancy, resulting in offspring in mid to late spring, timed so the young ones have their early days in times of mild weather and plentiful food.
How it affects Bon Bon is harder to tell. Assuming they follow humans with needing a relatively long nine month pregnancy, I'd expect there to be a lot of autumn and winter children. Just how intense this yearly population explosion actually depends on the self-control of the women, mostly. Can we use family planning measures or will hormones drive us females to go at it with no use of prophylactics and with males of the appropriate species? 
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According to what I remember female animals have a need to mate and require full mating, no half measures or tricks will do. I get the feeling that Mary has been denied her needs for so long, she is unusually irritable and desperate. Her body requires a mating and William being a fellow cat would be very susceptible.
I would say that not allowing a cat or any anthro in BonBon not to mate during heat season is very cruel and very unfair. Mary, is probably so catty and mercurial because our illustrious Mayor is a fool.
Heat cycles would be natural and would require a male post haste to be supplied...a service I bet the ladies of the Castle use with gusto and care. Choosing a non-compatible species but very willing partner therefore ensuring no pregnancies unless truly desired.
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I wonder, should I be relieved or depressed at the lack of of female wolves in Bon Bon during that season? That brings to mind another question as well; how do members of other species of Bon Bon with low population of their same species feel around that time for that reason? And what do they do? Focus their initial desire to mate with a member of the same species onto another?
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| Ashton Gray wrote: | | how do members of other species of Bon Bon with low population of their same species feel around that time for that reason? And what do they do? Focus their initial desire to mate with a member of the same species onto another? |
*shrugs.* Masturbate?
Maybe is a childish answer, but is the first came to mind when you asked those question.
That would Lidia might do if she's in heat and could not find a male ferret. |
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Camera ready for spring. ^_^
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...You didnt see anything...
*slip outta thread...*
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| kommy wrote: | | Just how intense this yearly population explosion actually depends on the self-control of the women, mostly. Can we use family planning measures or will hormones drive us females to go at it with no use of prophylactics and with males of the appropriate species? |
From what I recall Vanessa saying, the females simply avoid sex with males of their own species during that time, so I'd assume that while they may be highly aroused during such a period, they don't lose their self-control.
| Ashton Gray wrote: | | That brings to mind another question as well; how do members of other species of Bon Bon with low population of their same species feel around that time for that reason? And what do they do? Focus their initial desire to mate with a member of the same species onto another? |
That's a good question. Since they feel a need to reproduce, I wonder if they also find themselves much more attracted to males of their species. 
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Good question Symphony, XD
Though, I think my chara would get the hell out of there when it's spring... XD
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| Well, that certainly would help out for a storyline. I may have to create a secondary character, though, to continue on towards Samuel's eventual goal of starting a family. I wish I could just convince my wife to join, but oh well... |
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well through alot of this, i would assume that they would take our frame of mind and thinking. as stated before i dont think they would lose control, but ask yourself, if you were in that situation, what would you do?
You can find yourself attracted to another species, yet not get pregnant by them, so naturaly they would be considered for one night stands and whatnot.
on the other hand, when emotions are tossed into the mix, say the way mary feels for red, those are where you get your couples. as it is with us, i feel that pregnancy is a matter of choice in Bonbon. although humans go through thier phases of "heat" as well it can be varied depending on personality. i look at the fursona the same
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A thought just occurred to me. Perhaps this is where a lot of the women show their "Bi/lesbian" tendencies. Trying to keep away from the men of their species so they don't get pregnant, here's where "Sal's Sex Toys" sells the most units for all those gals looking to find release.
Now, a scientific question from a guy who hasn't bothered to look into it. ( ) There are some species of creatures where the males are the child holder/bearers/etc. Are there any species of male who go into a kind of "heat" like their female counterparts?
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| LabrnMystic wrote: | | Now, a scientific question from a guy who hasn't bothered to look into it. () There are some species of creatures where the males are the child holder/bearers/etc. Are there any species of male who go into a kind of "heat" like their female counterparts? |
Males don't really go into heat, per se. They're fairly easy to get going whenever a receptive female is around or shows an interest. Who knew? Usually just chemical or visual signals are enough to get them primed and ready, regardless of yearly cycles.
As for male child bearers... Unless you're talking about parenting or egg-sitting, no mammals, avians, or reptiles I know of can do it. A few amphibians do, though that's mostly through the magic of changing their own genders.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: Question for Vanessa: females in heat in Bon Bon |
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| Symphony wrote: | | You've mentioned in the past how the females go through periods where they avoid sex with males of the same species, so they won't get pregnant. |
Here's another point of view. In my vision of Furryverse it doesn't matter what species you mate, you can get pregnant anyway. That's my way of justifying the crossbreeding. In realism it's impossible I know (with exceptions like in between equines and some feline species, my Fursons father was half cat - half lion) but we have cartoons here :3
I don't want to argue with what Vanessa said but if I'm not mistaken there are crossbreeds in Bon Bon, for example master Gantros.
Also a question to Dr Fuchs, perhabs there are some medical ways of anticonception, like herbal etc?
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| dragonfly wrote: | just thought of this but i am sure my furson witch is a cheetah is the only one in bon bon so being that would it send other female cat species crazy as he's the only one.
i can pitcher this my furson walking down the street when all of a sudden loads of different female cats chase after him. |
Well I guess that depends on whether they have a fondness for cheetahs.
But I do wonder if males, or females with an attraction towards other females, pick up on the pheromones of the females that are in heat. And if they do, if it's exclusively the females of their own species.
| Greycat Rademenes wrote: |
I don't want to argue with what Vanessa said but if I'm not mistaken there are crossbreeds in Bon Bon, for example master Gantros.
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I don't really know if crossbreeding like Gantros' example is possibly in the real world. It's not like a fox/horse hybrid, so it might be possible, and from a visual point of view it doesn't look weird in this case.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| In the matter of crossbreeding, one must look at the species at hand. With the example of Gantros, both species are bat, which means they are closely enough related to conceive. So, if for instance Samuel were to have ended up with Cassandre, pregnancy may have been a possibility as both were big cats (tiger, panther). The species do not have to be exactly the same for impregnating to occur, simply close enough. |
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| Shadow_Twisted wrote: | | With the example of Gantros, both species are bat, which means they are closely enough related to conceive. |
Ok, I missed that a flying fox is also a bat, my bad >^^'<
Like I mentioned it highly depends how the creator decides to create his Furryverse :3
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