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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:46 am    Post subject: If Bon Bon was a cartoon Reply with quote

Witch would be better? 2D?, or CGI 3D like?.

And what types

2D's:
Fully hand drawn.
Flash made.
Disney style lol.

3D's:
ClayMation. http://www.flickr.com/photos/23049409@N06/3727925192/
Cgi
Pixar like style with that realistic and toony look. http://bolt-american-dog.com/bolt.jpg you know the toony shape body models with real lookin hair and textures
The Cgi cell shaded look http://xdbit.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/domo1.jpg or almost like sly cooper or http://citizengame.ca/wp-content/uploads/bog2.jpg
and storm hawks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzJGrH4duKU look

or something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODIeqp2rBQU
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say 2D, traditional hand drawn
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2d and Vannessa will become the art director.

Maybe be the voice overs of the owners of the avatars.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UltimaWolf0 wrote:
I'd say 2D, traditional hand drawn


I'm with Ultima, 2D hand drawn, would look the best in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I would say have it hand drawn. CGI just wouldn't seem to fit with PBB.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think anime style would actually be better. The japanese art styles used there seem better suited towards this kind of story/
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anime is hand drawn Rune ^^
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jerin Nekros wrote:
Anime is hand drawn Rune ^^


ah, Jerin, you beat me to it. But, with the confines of hand drawn art I agree, I feel that an anime style would work best for PBB
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would pick 2D
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah 2d full hand drawn seems the best, lol i almost thought

that cellshaded style was a good one, if it blends the 3d look to make it look like it's 2d.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well what i would is if we could have tha fursona we will be and do the voise for them now that would be fun
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude if bon bon were a cartoon that be awsome. Crowchild would be perfect for the job if he only was reliable ah well
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, anime is rarely hand drawn anymore, although the more classic ones were done in that fashion, its mostly computarized now to make a higher tone of sleekness.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rune174 wrote:
Actually, anime is rarely hand drawn anymore, although the more classic ones were done in that fashion, its mostly computarized now to make a higher tone of sleekness.

Thank god he invinted the mac
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am afraid I don't get what you mean adept.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the macantosh computer or labtop. pc to untrustworthy to do do art and graphic designs.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Adept wrote:
the macantosh computer or labtop. pc to untrustworthy to do do art and graphic designs.


LIES!

But yea I would go 2D. 3D department been failing pretty bad lately.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xivk wrote:
The Adept wrote:
the macantosh computer or labtop. pc to untrustworthy to do do art and graphic designs.


LIES!

But yea I would go 2D. 3D department been failing pretty bad lately.

There ther xivk, its ok we understand how addicting windows can be. Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really understand macs too much so I don't use them.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rune174 wrote:
I don't really understand macs too much so I don't use them.

pretty much pcs are for play and macs are for work
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i thought macs were for creative stuff like art and design while pc's are for more serious work like office stuff. hehe i suppose these days the only thing pc's have over macs is gaming power
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PC's are for work too. >_>

Just they're kept in secret.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only reason pcs have more "gaming power" is becaues alot developers just want to slam out games as fast as possible with minimal effort so they can make a profit. Mac actually certifies the vast majority the programs that run on their systems. windows doesnt', hence bug issues on windows.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could rant on how much I hate Macs, but this isn't really the thread for that. I would love to do Samuel's voice for a cartoon, regardless of the style chosen. I think 2D would be better.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah no that i've done y little rant, back on topic. 2 d would work best, and likewise i'd enjoy voicing my char if he showed up in it.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it were a cartoon, it'd have to be hand drawn in Vanessa's style, otherwise it's only "inspired by BonBon". Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would choose 2D and I agree with Tursi, it would have to be drawn by Vanessa. No other would do.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well those Japanese animators are pretty good at copying styles and would do much of the heavy lifting.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest, it's rarely pretty when you take something 2D and then try to "upscale" it to 3D.

PBB is a pretty detailed comic so if you were to try to make it 3D, then it would require incredibly ornate wire models and then you'd have to skin them. Also, if you watch most 3-D animation, unless it's somebody like Pixar who has an entire staff working full time on animation, then things like water effects and such always looks incredibly bad.

As an aside, Japanese animation isn't technically hand-drawn anymore. They started going with digital animation, which is very different from the old days where artists had to hand-paint cels, about ten years ago. Now it's pretty much the standard. I think the last show to feature any kind of hand-drawn animation was Spirited Away.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to remember if it was the Spanish or the Italians that had to handle the underwater hair effects for "The Incredibles". My brother went into 3D drafting and design, if not some other similar major, and as such he paid special attention to the animator's commentary of the DVD. The idea of Edna's hand going through the hole in Bob's suit was absolutely absurd to the animators, but they managed to pull it off. In the long run, 3D has many more problems and details that can easily ruin the work if it isn't done on a majorly professional scale and that would be so expensive that you would need to have a pretty big payoff intended, i.e. a full-length movie. If anyone wants to see some examples of poorly coordinated 3D effects, peruse IMVU's catalog. Some of the products are either horribly textured or the meshes are #$%^ed up enough that it creates Z-fighting. And to think I was crazy enough to want to try to design 3d products for that site.
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