Getting the Word Out (sharing BonBon)

[Drake_Skyflyer]

[Martin]

Don't worry, Drake... as far as I know, Fchan has a DNP list, meaning that the author can just ask for the pictures NOT to be posted, and they'll be removed.
Which is more than one can expect from many chans nowadays...

[LabrnMystic]

Yes. There will always be other forums who love to post up member level stuff to share freely with everyone else. *shakes head* I'm a good friend of Amanda Payne, and she gets the same thing with her work. As well as Dr. Comet.
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[Drake_Skyflyer]

I know but someone said that PBB wasn't on the DNP list. I'm not sure but the mods won't allow it and I'd let you know as would they i assume if anyone did anything.
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"This is not a skirt, it is a kilt. It is not so restricting like pants and it has great airflow."~Drake

[Martin]

Well, if it isn't, we'll just have to ask them to add it, ne c'est pas?
As far as I know, the Fchan people have much better manners than the average channer, so I guess it wouldn't be a problem.
(and no, I'm not french... I don't even know how to speak it. I just wanted to make the thing a little stylish )

[Drake_Skyflyer]

I failt french... -.- but i can get a good brittish accent.
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"This is not a skirt, it is a kilt. It is not so restricting like pants and it has great airflow."~Drake

[Ronald]

[Ashton Gray]

Hm, I've heard it said "It's nice to be popular" but this seems to be more of a nuisance, if not an insult.
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[Ronald]

[Ronald]

There used to be a forum posting site that begins with a "P"

I contacted their mods, they refused to do anything about it. Funny bit is the MODs don't own the site. I got tired of dealing with their ignorance. I wrote to them nicely too, with no legal threats. Just a simple, hey can you remove this please. They were stubborn. I got a hold of their hosting company. Dished them a 24 hour notice. The content and thread got removed instantly. They even posted a Do Not Post from this list.

And some idiot forum member requested and reposted. I immediately contacted the owner since the host provider handed the owners info over to us. And the owner barely even check the site or manage it, but he got rid of the content in matters of 5 minutes.

And it resurfaced again, and it got to the point where I was fed up and called the hosting company to permanently shut them down.

DMCA is very nice law. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA

And hosting companies take it seriously.
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[Ronald]

[Ronald]

I think we're all getting off topic, but oh well. I'll split this thread in half later.


I was thinking of creating a Press Kit so that fans can share and post to help bring in more traffic and new members. Going to talk it over with Vanessa and see what she thinks.

What are your thoughts?

Its a big concern for us in terms of getting new members right now. Keeping members isn't hard, the story speaks for itself!! BonBon is growing in terms of Royal Members, thats good. But our overall sales went down last month, in terms of new members. (that's why these free materials that leak from the members area hurts our sales because members don't sign up).

And if BonBon doesn't make enough for Vanessa, she might quit (which she has mentioned to me before that she is having medical bills and alot of stress, etc) if the site doesn't make enough. The thought of the story discontinuing would really suck!! The effect will just kill BonBon in the long run if there are no updates, and no updates means losing members overtime, and the site will just fizzle. I've launched a bunch of sites in the past 10 years that have fizzled, and it's not pretty.

It's usually a struggle the first year or so while the site is building enough content for new members to feel like there's alot there. Hopefully, BonBon will never fizzle. So far it's doing great. Just a little minor bump last 2 months (post xmas blues? or just pirated materials killing us?), not sure.

But members support has been great. Our forum is very active. Thanks for all your support guys!!

-R
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http://www.eadultgames.com/ - adult games, strip poker, strip blackjack, and more.

[Ronald]

Oh and a special THANKS to Martin for helping me and Vanessa, here and there!!



-R
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[Ashton Gray]

I, quite literally, felt my heart stop and my chest tighten at the mere mention of Vanessa quiting, the story stopping and this place fizzling. I don't know if those responsible will see this but I'm going to say this anyway: "Please stop stealing this story and artwork from here, if for no other reason than than for Ms.Santato's sake and well being. Stress is not a fun thing to live with, I know, I've been there, and it can easily and quickly turn into depression, another not fun thing to live with, again I know, I've been there. So I say again, please stop stealing this story and artwork from here." I can't speak for the rest of those here but I will stay here for as long as your here, PBB crew.So cheer up everyone and wipe away your tears, Vanessa, you've got one die hard fan who'll stick it out with you, for whatever it's worth .
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[Qumefox]

[YoungCesar]

When did ANY law become a good one? I think that MOST laws are just different methods for control,but there are such laws that need to be upheld...even i know that
As for the DMCA giving far to much leeway to private industries so they treat their customers any way they wish,i think it just a matter of how you aproach buisness.Have you not heard of "The customer is always right" meaning that if you dont abuse customers-they come back,more customers come back, the more money you make I too have had a running with such "industries" who were being far too graby and somewhat rude,but i just swear here and there and everything's A OK!
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[Martin]

[YoungCesar]

[Ashton Gray]

Thanks, I meant every word of it and then some . I may not be able to recommend this place to my friends since most of them are either to old, young or unintrested to be intrested in such a place as this, most of, if not all of, them would just take PBB at face value anyway, and I simply don't have the nerve to recommend it to total strangers, but I'll still be here for a while yet, I all but guarantee it. (Don't be disheartened by my "all but guarantee it" comment, it's simply my nature to leave room for the unexpected .)
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[YoungCesar]

My thoughts exactly,dealing with most people and friends,who can't possibly imagine your point of view on this site, can be a strain on the nerves!Well its like i say,you cant reason with closed minds But still,there might be some people who can share our thoughts about PBB
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Ascendo tuum!

[LabrnMystic]

Say it ain't so! Quit!? Grrr...stupid people and their distribution of copyrighted goods.

Well, if it'll help her stay open and keep things up and running, I'll go ahead and get the other account specifically for Mystic.

Every little bit to help out around here. ^_^
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[JohnnyPsycho]

[YoungCesar]

Now there's an idea man!Nice way to get people interested...but don't forget that the comic isn't based only on the story,but the great art aswell-its,like what keeps it together.The only problem with this idea is how are you going to explain to people,how awsome this comic and site are,with just the stories.Still its worth a shot!Dont knock it till you've tried it
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"When're you gonna get it in your brain-the gate's wide open and the dog's off the chain."
Ascendo tuum!

[Ashton Gray]

To YoungCesar: One can only hope and it's not impossible to reason with closed minds, it just takes more patience. Oh, and a friendly piece of advice, watch out for Brutus.

To LabrnMystic: I can only agree with Johnny in saying "Now THAT'S dedication!"

To JohnnyPsycho: See above and your idea sounds good to me but I would recommend leaving out the artwork, we would'nt want to present another opportunity for theft, now would we?
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[JohnnyPsycho]

I wasn't really thinking of that, though I do know that we have a couple of artists among the fans who have already submitted fanart. If they continue to post their own fanart creations on their own sites, with the proper citation of the source material (in other words, mentioning the site and Ms. Vanessa Santato somewhere on the image, etc.), the word can still be spread that way. Fanart, like fanfiction, can be a good advertisment, as it gets people thinking "Hey, if this guy likes it enough to write/draw something based off of it, maybe I should give this place a look!"

Again, as long as the fans are careful not to distribute member's only stuff, and do not pass off copyrighted material as their own (make sure you mention PleasureBonBon.com somewhere in your fan-works, whatever they are), it will help generate a buzz.

That's just my thoughts...
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Johnny's Fanfics (including Sureshot! A Bon Bon Tale)

Johnny's backstory
Johnny, Mark II (Project Aten character)

[Xebulon]

Well, the annual Renaissance Festivals might be a good source of advertising. Not exactly the right time period, but that doesn't seem to stop most people.

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24992591/?qo=22&q=by%3Ashamoncornell+in%3Ascraps&qh=sort%3Atime
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24992487/?qo=23&q=by%3Ashamoncornell+in%3Ascraps&qh=sort%3Atime
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24992267/?qo=26&q=by%3Ashamoncornell+in%3Ascraps&qh=sort%3Atime
For those that need/want examples.

And if that's not an option, I've always been willing to publicly humiliate myself for a good cause. I can make a billbouard (like those guys you see in movies walking around the major city of your choice wearing billboards saying "The end is neigh!") and stroll around Washington D.C. for a few hours. Of until I get arrested for public indecency and cruelty to fire-hydrants.
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[LabrnMystic]

Well, I got to wait for a reply, but Mystic is based off a combination of characteristics from other anime/manga characters, as well as a close friend of mine. So, instead of her just leeching off my account, she'll have one of her own. That way she can intereact with any of you guys and it'll clear up any misunderstandings. Such as if your wondering "Is that Labrn or Mystic hitting on me?"

And Johnny, I was thinking the same thing with my fanfics, but I'm still working out bits and pieces with Vanessa, because I prefer little bits to match up as evenly as possible. Ronald did say though, the free preview stuff can be shown, as long as you still give props and link it back here, so if you were going to post up your fanfics and want some art to go with it, you can use the free preview pictures.

What about our Avatars? I wanted to use this one that Vanessa made for me on another board. Thats alright right?
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[YoungCesar]

That just might work.A few fanart here and there with some stories inspired by Bon Bon can be a good advertisment.But i think that before posting them somewhere you should discuss the ones that are going to be posted,share some ideas here and there,that way you get the best results.Oh...and Xebulon wearing the billboard and strolling around Washington is a good idea Maybe we can do a promotinal stunt,you know,drive a car thru a flaming ring while spinnig at 360 degrees...(It'll make a heck of a commercial )
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"When're you gonna get it in your brain-the gate's wide open and the dog's off the chain."
Ascendo tuum!

[Xebulon]

To quote George Carlin, "I've always been willing to put myself at great personal risk for the sake of entertainment. And I've always been willing to put YOU at great personal risk for the same reason."
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[Ronald]