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Symphony Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Betty told Red about how she hadn't seen Mary for two years. I'm assuming that this was when Simon put an end to Betty's visits. If that was also when Edelweiss took the blame for it and was banished, that means she has been gone from Bon Bon for seven years. Now I don't know if her banishment was permanent, or if there are still some time to go before she is allowed back in Bon Bon, or if she is actually already allowed back and just hasn't returned for some reason. Or something completely different. It'll be interesting to find out in issue 7.
I wonder if Red too was banished for some time.
Or perhaps he has just been busy with whatever it is the Clan of the Talon does. _________________ Constance Mayflower's bio
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green_fox Rank: Mr. Fabulous

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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I think Simon banned Edelweiss permanently. We haven't seen yet what happened that made him ban her but I'm sure it was (in his eyes) so horrible that it can't be forgiven. Let's wait what will the next pages and issues will reveal  _________________ click here |
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Symphony Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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I was just going back over the older issues, and I found the explanation of the first law of Bon Bon by Simon, where he says that people who violate the privacy of others are banished for 10 to 15 years. Though perhaps Edelweiss' case was different.
Then in issue 4, Betty talks about how she broke the first law of Bon Bon and Edelweiss took responsibility. So I wonder if Betty was looking around, trying to figure out why Mary was locked up like that. The fact that Betty was becoming a connection between Mary and the Delight Castle, might have angered Simon even further.
At least, that's what I'm thinking so far, and also why I wonder if Red may have been made to leave Bon Bon in addition to his engagement to Mary being broken off, assuming of course that Simon found out about the letters. _________________ Constance Mayflower's bio
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Shadow9808 Royal Member of BonBon

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Ashton Gray Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed, Betty absolutely cute in this latest instalment. _________________ Silentium est aurum |
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JohnnyPsycho Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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I was just about to say the same thing, the Rebecca picture is really cute.
Also, it's nice to know that there's such mutual respect among you and your peers in the artistic world of furry comics... do other comic artists often make reference to you and your work in their own comics? _________________ Johnny's Fanfics (including Sureshot! A Bon Bon Tale)
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Symphony Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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I definately agree about it being hot. I also knew it would be that after the last panel of page 8.
I like that we're seeing some new female characters we haven't seen in a sex scene before. They are really nice. And it's not just new characters, but also how we're seeing a scene with so many females. And I must say that it's extremely hot how Lily is pleasuring Red, while at the same time being pleasured by Periwinkle  _________________ Constance Mayflower's bio
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Corran Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:16 am Post subject: |
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Symphony wrote: | I definately agree about it being hot. I also knew it would be that after the last panel of page 8.
I like that we're seeing some new female characters we haven't seen in a sex scene before. They are really nice. And it's not just new characters, but also how we're seeing a scene with so many females. And I must say that it's extremely hot how Lily is pleasuring Red, while at the same time being pleasured by Periwinkle  |
Amen to that!  _________________ Go on. Tell me how you really feel. |
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Shadow9808 Royal Member of BonBon

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UltimaWolf0 Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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I have to agree. Lily's looking really hot in these last few pages. |
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bergfalkt Rank: Casual

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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I like all the details in the newest page. I wish I had the talent to draw like that. |
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Shadow9808 Royal Member of BonBon

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Symphony Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Shadow9808 wrote: | She's really enjoying her new job in the castle. |
I'm enjoying her new job too
And I think the same goes for Red. The last panel where he practically buries his muzzle in her, is incrediblt hot.
This also makes me wonder if Lily perhaps taught him some of the techniques he later used on Betty  _________________ Constance Mayflower's bio
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:57 am Post subject: |
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Symphony wrote: | I can't wait to see the next page. I'm really looking forward to seeing which characters are at the Delight Castle at the time of the flashback, and what they look like.
I'm not sure if Violet will be there, but she should be 17 at the time, so it would at least be in another job than we're used to seeing her in. The Champagne sisters might be there, but they too should be 17 at the time. |
I was wondering where Violet was...But anyway, I bet Lily did teach Red those moves. |
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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myori137 wrote: |
I was wondering where Violet was...But anyway, I bet Lily did teach Red those moves. |
I've actually since read a post by Vanessa in another thread, that Violet has only been at the castle for a year, so she shouldn't appear in this flashback. I'd like to learn more of her story sometime as well.
EDIT - actually I can't find the post about Violet. I'm not so sure about the one year at the Delight Castle anymore.  _________________ Constance Mayflower's bio
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JohnnyPsycho Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, Violet seems to be mostly oblivious to the whole Betty/Red/Mary plot going on, or at least it very much seems that way. I got the impression that Violet wasn't a "lifer" like the Champaign twins or Betty... Actually, based on her first appearance in the comic, she seems to be sort of naive about how the job works: interupting Betty while she was with a client, "stealing" him away from her, and then letting him off with a "freebie"... not really "professional", I'd say...  _________________ Johnny's Fanfics (including Sureshot! A Bon Bon Tale)
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Ashton Gray Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Though wholly entertaining and amusing. _________________ Silentium est aurum |
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Symphony Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:45 am Post subject: |
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Okay, I did find the post where Vanessa said that Violet has only been at the castle for a year, so it wasn't just something I had imagined
My impression of Violet is that while she can be naive at times, a great deal of her behaviour is also due to her being a very carefree and positive person. I don't think that she cares to follow the rules as much as Betty.
I have also been thinking just how much she knows about Red. She obviously knows about the whole story about Mary, but I wonder just how much of the past Betty has told her. _________________ Constance Mayflower's bio
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Violet has been working at the Delight Castle for just over one year, and she knows next to nothing of Betty's past; there's a lot of confidence between Betty and the girl that worked at the Castle from the time when Edelweiss was there, but she prefers Violet's company. Since Dalila and the others shared sad moments of Betty's past, she doesn't spend much time with them to avoid remembering.
On the other hand, Violet is happy and naive and with her Betty is distracted and feels at ease, for the very reason that Violet doesn't know much. That's why Betty chose her on the spot as a sort of lady-in-waiting.  _________________
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JohnnyPsycho Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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As always, whenever Vanessa posts something, it clears up all doubts (or at least a great many of them). That explanation of Betty and Violet's friendship makes a surprising amount of sense, plus I'd suspect the Champagne sisters and Betty might have a bit of a "sibling" relationship, since all three of them grew up under the care of Edelweiss. Anyone who has siblings knows that the longer you're around them, the less time you want to spend near them. Sure, you might get along with your siblings, for the most part, but even when they don't get on your nerves there's a definite need for privacy and lots of "personal space".
Sort like the opposite of the old idiom "Absence makes the heart grow fonder"... maybe something like "Presence make the heart go 'meh'."  _________________ Johnny's Fanfics (including Sureshot! A Bon Bon Tale)
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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JohnnyPsycho wrote: | Sort like the opposite of the old idiom "Absence makes the heart grow fonder"... maybe something like "Presence make the heart go 'meh'."  |
That is fricken perfect... can I use that I'm seriously going to quote that at a couple of my friends |
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duo2nd Rank: Veteran

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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:22 am Post subject: |
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Hmm....I sense a lot of drama in Issue 7 perhaps?
Quote: | On the other hand, Violet is happy and naive and with her Betty is distracted and feels at ease, for the very reason that Violet doesn't know much. That's why Betty chose her on the spot as a sort of lady-in-waiting. |
So that means there's a possibility Violet may become closer to Betty after she became the Queen of the Delight Castle someday... |
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Symphony Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Something that I've been wondering is how Dorian fit into all of this. Could he possibly be a member of the Clan of the Talon as well?
It appears that it was Dorian who somehow told Red that William is in Bon Bon, but I wonder why he would give such information to Red, and at the same time try to warn him about Red coming to Bon Bon.  _________________ Constance Mayflower's bio
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Did you ever watch "The Skulls"? That's the way secret societies work. Intruige and misdirection are tools of the trade. _________________ Silentium est aurum |
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