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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Betty told Red about how she hadn't seen Mary for two years. I'm assuming that this was when Simon put an end to Betty's visits. If that was also when Edelweiss took the blame for it and was banished, that means she has been gone from Bon Bon for seven years. Now I don't know if her banishment was permanent, or if there are still some time to go before she is allowed back in Bon Bon, or if she is actually already allowed back and just hasn't returned for some reason. Or something completely different. It'll be interesting to find out in issue 7.

I wonder if Red too was banished for some time. Curious
Or perhaps he has just been busy with whatever it is the Clan of the Talon does.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Simon banned Edelweiss permanently. We haven't seen yet what happened that made him ban her but I'm sure it was (in his eyes) so horrible that it can't be forgiven. Let's wait what will the next pages and issues will reveal Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just going back over the older issues, and I found the explanation of the first law of Bon Bon by Simon, where he says that people who violate the privacy of others are banished for 10 to 15 years. Though perhaps Edelweiss' case was different.

Then in issue 4, Betty talks about how she broke the first law of Bon Bon and Edelweiss took responsibility. So I wonder if Betty was looking around, trying to figure out why Mary was locked up like that. The fact that Betty was becoming a connection between Mary and the Delight Castle, might have angered Simon even further.

At least, that's what I'm thinking so far, and also why I wonder if Red may have been made to leave Bon Bon in addition to his engagement to Mary being broken off, assuming of course that Simon found out about the letters.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The plot grows thicker as each page turns. All I know is that certainly is the cutest apperence Betty has made yet!
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed, Betty absolutely cute in this latest instalment.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dog girl that pets Red's ear is Maria Grace and isn't a character of mine, but she's (c) of Stefanus, a dear italian friend of mine, author of the free online comic Doubutsu Sentai Zooqquadrion
http://www.diozeram.com/12zqq14.htm
http://www.diozeram.com/14zqq7.htm
I and Stefanus exchange cameos out of friendship. In these pages you see my fursona as a journalist http://www.diozeram.com/13zqq1.htm and Ham reading PBB http://www.diozeram.com/6zqq6.htm !
For Stefanus I drew also Rebecca the eaglet http://vanessasan.deviantart.com/art/Rebecca-76457378 and in the past also Nero the dog and Usami the white bunny, that appear in this panel http://www.diozeram.com/fanart5.htm .
I've decided to have Maria Grace appear because she's really a prostitute, even in Stefanus's comic.
http://www.diozeram.com/index.htm
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe, I really like that panel with Red looking almost frightened among the girls Laughing


And it's interesting to see these other pictures, Vanessa. I particularly like the one of Rebecca.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just about to say the same thing, the Rebecca picture is really cute.

Also, it's nice to know that there's such mutual respect among you and your peers in the artistic world of furry comics... do other comic artists often make reference to you and your work in their own comics?
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhm.. no, I received just some fan arts like pinups from other artist :
http://vanessasan.deviantart.com/favourites/#gift-and-fan-art .
But I never received a true cameo in to a different comic from another comic artist before, like Stefanus did . Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked The latest page is unbelievably hot!! Just when I find myself getting drawn in by the intrigues and mysteries of the plot and all the suppositions of what happens next... BAM, suddenly SEX!!

...that's all I've got to say about that. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I definately agree about it being hot. I also knew it would be that after the last panel of page 8. Razz

I like that we're seeing some new female characters we haven't seen in a sex scene before. They are really nice. And it's not just new characters, but also how we're seeing a scene with so many females. And I must say that it's extremely hot how Lily is pleasuring Red, while at the same time being pleasured by Periwinkle woot
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Symphony wrote:
I definately agree about it being hot. I also knew it would be that after the last panel of page 8. Razz

I like that we're seeing some new female characters we haven't seen in a sex scene before. They are really nice. And it's not just new characters, but also how we're seeing a scene with so many females. And I must say that it's extremely hot how Lily is pleasuring Red, while at the same time being pleasured by Periwinkle woot


Amen to that! big grin
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Second it!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmm we have another page of very hot(and wet) sex Razz

I must say that the details are really outstanding. It's really exceptionally well drawn.

And it's totally hot to see the sexy Lily in such a scene big grin
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree. Lily's looking really hot in these last few pages.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like all the details in the newest page. I wish I had the talent to draw like that.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She's really enjoying her new job in the castle.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shadow9808 wrote:
She's really enjoying her new job in the castle.

I'm enjoying her new job too Laughing

And I think the same goes for Red. The last panel where he practically buries his muzzle in her, is incrediblt hot.

This also makes me wonder if Lily perhaps taught him some of the techniques he later used on Betty Curious
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Symphony wrote:
I can't wait to see the next page. I'm really looking forward to seeing which characters are at the Delight Castle at the time of the flashback, and what they look like.

I'm not sure if Violet will be there, but she should be 17 at the time, so it would at least be in another job than we're used to seeing her in. The Champagne sisters might be there, but they too should be 17 at the time.


I was wondering where Violet was...But anyway, I bet Lily did teach Red those moves.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

myori137 wrote:

I was wondering where Violet was...But anyway, I bet Lily did teach Red those moves.

I've actually since read a post by Vanessa in another thread, that Violet has only been at the castle for a year, so she shouldn't appear in this flashback. I'd like to learn more of her story sometime as well.

EDIT - actually I can't find the post about Violet. I'm not so sure about the one year at the Delight Castle anymore. Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Violet seems to be mostly oblivious to the whole Betty/Red/Mary plot going on, or at least it very much seems that way. I got the impression that Violet wasn't a "lifer" like the Champaign twins or Betty... Actually, based on her first appearance in the comic, she seems to be sort of naive about how the job works: interupting Betty while she was with a client, "stealing" him away from her, and then letting him off with a "freebie"... not really "professional", I'd say... Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Though wholly entertaining and amusing.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I did find the post where Vanessa said that Violet has only been at the castle for a year, so it wasn't just something I had imagined Smile

My impression of Violet is that while she can be naive at times, a great deal of her behaviour is also due to her being a very carefree and positive person. I don't think that she cares to follow the rules as much as Betty.

I have also been thinking just how much she knows about Red. She obviously knows about the whole story about Mary, but I wonder just how much of the past Betty has told her.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Violet has been working at the Delight Castle for just over one year, and she knows next to nothing of Betty's past; there's a lot of confidence between Betty and the girl that worked at the Castle from the time when Edelweiss was there, but she prefers Violet's company. Since Dalila and the others shared sad moments of Betty's past, she doesn't spend much time with them to avoid remembering.
On the other hand, Violet is happy and naive and with her Betty is distracted and feels at ease, for the very reason that Violet doesn't know much. That's why Betty chose her on the spot as a sort of lady-in-waiting. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As always, whenever Vanessa posts something, it clears up all doubts (or at least a great many of them). That explanation of Betty and Violet's friendship makes a surprising amount of sense, plus I'd suspect the Champagne sisters and Betty might have a bit of a "sibling" relationship, since all three of them grew up under the care of Edelweiss. Anyone who has siblings knows that the longer you're around them, the less time you want to spend near them. Sure, you might get along with your siblings, for the most part, but even when they don't get on your nerves there's a definite need for privacy and lots of "personal space".

Sort like the opposite of the old idiom "Absence makes the heart grow fonder"... maybe something like "Presence make the heart go 'meh'." Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She has a knack for clearing up details.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnnyPsycho wrote:
Sort like the opposite of the old idiom "Absence makes the heart grow fonder"... maybe something like "Presence make the heart go 'meh'." Laughing


That is fricken perfect... can I use that I'm seriously going to quote that at a couple of my friends
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm....I sense a lot of drama in Issue 7 perhaps?

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On the other hand, Violet is happy and naive and with her Betty is distracted and feels at ease, for the very reason that Violet doesn't know much. That's why Betty chose her on the spot as a sort of lady-in-waiting.


So that means there's a possibility Violet may become closer to Betty after she became the Queen of the Delight Castle someday...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something that I've been wondering is how Dorian fit into all of this. Could he possibly be a member of the Clan of the Talon as well?

It appears that it was Dorian who somehow told Red that William is in Bon Bon, but I wonder why he would give such information to Red, and at the same time try to warn him about Red coming to Bon Bon. Curious
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you ever watch "The Skulls"? That's the way secret societies work. Intruige and misdirection are tools of the trade.
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