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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Say it ain't so! Quit!? Evil or Very Mad Grrr...stupid people and their distribution of copyrighted goods.

Well, if it'll help her stay open and keep things up and running, I'll go ahead and get the other account specifically for Mystic.

Every little bit to help out around here. ^_^
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LabrnMystic wrote:
Well, if it'll help her stay open and keep things up and running, I'll go ahead and get the other account specifically for Mystic.

Every little bit to help out around here. ^_^


O_O Now that's dedication!

I've been thinking about this, about ways to spread the word of BonBon, and I had an idea of sorts... I've been wanting to write a small series of fanfics based on the world of BonBon, and originally I was going to post them here, but then it hit me... What if I entered my stories on a couple of other furry and erotic fiction sites that I already look at anyway? I realized that if I wrote some short stories and submitted them to sites like Literotica or YiffStar and kept a disclaimer at the top about it being based on the characters from this site, I might just be able to pull in interested folks that way. In fact, judging from the number of talented writers we've got in here, it might not be a bad idea for a number of us to do this, provided we state that our works are inspired by PleasureBonBon.com and Ms. Santato's work...

Thoughts? Comments?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now there's an idea man!Nice way to get people interested...but don't forget that the comic isn't based only on the story,but the great art aswell-its,like what keeps it together.The only problem with this idea is how are you going to explain to people,how awsome this comic and site are,with just the stories.Still its worth a shot!Dont knock it till you've tried it Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To YoungCesar: One can only hope and it's not impossible to reason with closed minds, it just takes more patience. Oh, and a friendly piece of advice, watch out for Brutus.

To LabrnMystic: I can only agree with Johnny in saying "Now THAT'S dedication!"

To JohnnyPsycho: See above and your idea sounds good to me but I would recommend leaving out the artwork, we would'nt want to present another opportunity for theft, now would we?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't really thinking of that, though I do know that we have a couple of artists among the fans who have already submitted fanart. If they continue to post their own fanart creations on their own sites, with the proper citation of the source material (in other words, mentioning the site and Ms. Vanessa Santato somewhere on the image, etc.), the word can still be spread that way. Fanart, like fanfiction, can be a good advertisment, as it gets people thinking "Hey, if this guy likes it enough to write/draw something based off of it, maybe I should give this place a look!"

Again, as long as the fans are careful not to distribute member's only stuff, and do not pass off copyrighted material as their own (make sure you mention PleasureBonBon.com somewhere in your fan-works, whatever they are), it will help generate a buzz.

That's just my thoughts...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the annual Renaissance Festivals might be a good source of advertising. Not exactly the right time period, but that doesn't seem to stop most people.

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24992591/?qo=22&q=by%3Ashamoncornell+in%3Ascraps&qh=sort%3Atime
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24992487/?qo=23&q=by%3Ashamoncornell+in%3Ascraps&qh=sort%3Atime
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24992267/?qo=26&q=by%3Ashamoncornell+in%3Ascraps&qh=sort%3Atime
For those that need/want examples. Very Happy

And if that's not an option, I've always been willing to publicly humiliate myself for a good cause. I can make a billbouard (like those guys you see in movies walking around the major city of your choice wearing billboards saying "The end is neigh!") and stroll around Washington D.C. for a few hours. Of until I get arrested for public indecency and cruelty to fire-hydrants. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I got to wait for a reply, but Mystic is based off a combination of characteristics from other anime/manga characters, as well as a close friend of mine. So, instead of her just leeching off my account, she'll have one of her own. That way she can intereact with any of you guys and it'll clear up any misunderstandings. Such as if your wondering "Is that Labrn or Mystic hitting on me?" blink

And Johnny, I was thinking the same thing with my fanfics, but I'm still working out bits and pieces with Vanessa, because I prefer little bits to match up as evenly as possible. Ronald did say though, the free preview stuff can be shown, as long as you still give props and link it back here, so if you were going to post up your fanfics and want some art to go with it, you can use the free preview pictures.

What about our Avatars? I wanted to use this one that Vanessa made for me on another board. Thats alright right?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That just might work.A few fanart here and there with some stories inspired by Bon Bon can be a good advertisment.But i think that before posting them somewhere you should discuss the ones that are going to be posted,share some ideas here and there,that way you get the best results.Oh...and Xebulon wearing the billboard and strolling around Washington is a good idea Curious Maybe we can do a promotinal stunt,you know,drive a car thru a flaming ring while spinnig at 360 degrees...(It'll make a heck of a commercial Wink )
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To quote George Carlin, "I've always been willing to put myself at great personal risk for the sake of entertainment. And I've always been willing to put YOU at great personal risk for the same reason." Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LabrnMystic wrote:
What about our Avatars? I wanted to use this one that Vanessa made for me on another board. Thats alright right?


Vanessa was suggesting we add in a PBonBon logo at the bottom of each avatar we make to get people interested in the images of the avatar. Or possibly a URL below each avatar so its sort of like an ad.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More so the latter, Xebulon, depending on the risk, I'm sure. Funny man, that George Carlin, hard to believe he used to be Mr.Conductor from Shining Time Station Laughing .
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ronald wrote:
Vanessa was suggesting we add in a PBonBon logo at the bottom of each avatar we make to get people interested in the images of the avatar. Or possibly a URL below each avatar so its sort of like an ad.

That's a pretty good idea! I too have been wondering about using my PBB avatar outside of the site...

We need to keep brainstorming, folks! We will not surrendure our beloved BonBon to the ravages of Internet-mediocrity and the grim spectre of "Loss-of-Interest"! Chat up every furry-fan you know, get them to pull out their wallets and get on here!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LabrnMystic wrote:
Well, I got to wait for a reply, but Mystic is based off a combination of characteristics from other anime/manga characters, as well as a close friend of mine. So, instead of her just leeching off my account, she'll have one of her own. That way she can intereact with any of you guys and it'll clear up any misunderstandings. Such as if your wondering "Is that Labrn or Mystic hitting on me?" blink

Laughing Okay, now I get it... why the heck didn't you just tell her to get her own account in the first place? We need more female participation in the forums (no offense to kommy and Littlefox or their respective characters)...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnnyPsycho wrote:
We need to keep brainstorming, folks! We will not surrendure our beloved BonBon to the ravages of Internet-mediocrity and the grim spectre of "Loss-of-Interest"! Chat up every furry-fan you know, get them to pull out their wallets and get on here!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha!I love the smell of burning wheels in the morning...makes me feel all...smart!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh boy! The 24th was my birthday and you opened this topic that is like a gift!
I turned 30 and summed up everything that I did in my life and what the future has in store for me.
I studied a lot, mainly art, did many works of every kind, painted, sculpted and showed my works in Roman galleries...etc..
I did many commission, restorations of ancient objects, comic conventions...
Impossible to list everything.
But in the end I decided to leave behind all these occasional jobs to dedicate myself to PBB and when, the last two months, happenned all the mayhem that Ronald told you about I had a nervous breakdown due to exhaustion amd sadness due to seeing all my work wasted... and I feared for PBB's future (also because for a woman it's still difficult to do this job, one must take care of house and family too...).
But I believe in it more than anything I ever believed in before: therefore I'll hold on, thanks to the support of Ronald, Martin and Marco and of course thanks to you!
Now I'm working together with a new artist on the new comic about Scarlett for the members area; let's hope that this way the members will come back, and not only to take the material and share it off-site!

Say, where else would you find another furry comic that lets the fursonas of the members participate to the story and develops with your suggestions and advice? hehehe!

Just think of sweet Jillian participating to the Auditions gallery! I would never have thought of it if you hadn't suggested it to me!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah,Lady Vanessa,let me be the one of the many people who whished you a happy birthday.I wish you luck,hapiness and to never give up on your talent and your dreams!Leave behind the stress and worries,for everything hapens
for a reason.All of us here are great fans of your work,me being one of them.I am new here but allready i have been stuned by the beauty of the Bon Bon universe.And you are right,no other comic lets fursonas of members participate in the story and acts on advise of fans!Here i find people who share most,if not all my interests.So,as i have said,don't give up on anything thats worth fighting for.I myself had a nervous breakdown,not long ago,and felt like everything was falling apart,but although i havent sorted that problem out,i enjoy being here alive,and a fan of your site! Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vanessa wrote:
Oh boy! The 24th was my birthday and you opened this topic that is like a gift!

Crud, now I feel all guilty... It was your birthday, and I didn't get you a present! Wink

Well, at least you know there are a few of us here who truly appreciate everything you've done and will stand by you all the way! I suppose that could be considered a nice present... So happy birthday, Vanessa!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now on the current subject,i have a question.Where are you(well,counting me too,i want to help in whatever way i can Wink )going to post these stories and arts?I took my time and found a list of furry sites,mainly sharing art.So if anyone has any ideas i kindly ask you to share them and we can make this work Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...I'm with Johnny on feeling bad that I missed your birthday. Had I known that Vanessa, I'd of tried to get that pic done just in time for it. Ah well, I'll attempt a second one of you. Smile (Don't worry, it won't be a mature rated pic Wink)

Anywho, Happy Birthday Vanessa. *raises a toast to you*
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone! Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I didn't know it was your birthday, Vanessa! But I don't think I can say much else than what's already been said, except that I hope you had a great day. Hmm, your birthday was the 24th and this month, (back on the 12th) I turned 24. Maybe that's a good omen. Very Happy

And you're definitely right about this being the only site where users can create their own characters and have them participate in the story. That's one of the things I find so inventive about PBB and why I think it would be a real shame if something unfortunate were to happen. You're extremely talented, Vanessa and I don't ever want to see you stressed out like that.

I'll do what I can to get more people interested in the site though! I might be able to scrounge up a few.

And again, Happy Birthday! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heh, my birthday was April 10th, and I turned 27... lots of April Babies in the crowd...

Aaaaanyway, back to the topic... Like I said before, I visit YiffStar.com and Literotica.com every now and then, and I even have a couple of stories already up on Literotica (though not necessarily of the furry kind).

I'm not sure of very many erotic-fiction sharing sites geared toward furry other than YiffStar (which also recently just added image galleries to it as well, so you can contribute both writing and art).

Even though Literotica is more generalized erotica, I have seen anthro stuff posted in both their "NonHuman Stories" section and "Sci-Fi & Fantasy Stories" section (up to you on which one you think is more fitting, but they do at least want you to categorize your stories when you submit them).

um, that's all I got... any other suggestions?

Oh, and another thing... it might be a good idea to somehow keep a tally on who is doing what, just as "quality control" so that no one's misrepresenting our lovely BonBon in some way... Like perhaps posting stories in the general forum before "distributing" them to an outside site, just to get other people's input and critiques... It seems most people prefer to post their fanart in the forums as it is, to get Vanessa's "okay"...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes,i think you're right Johny and i dug up some sites with forums that we can post on.Get people interested and then let them find out what puts the "P" in Pleasure Bon Bon!Tell me if you need help with that,i'll do whatever i can. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope you had a wonderful birthday,Vanessa! Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nuts, I'm a little late. Let me echo the congratulations for both your birthday and your success against the likes of vile IP pirates. Very Happy

As for advertising and getting the word out... Well, no offense to anyone here or their creative abilities, but I think Vanessa's own artwork is the biggest selling point. I like the avatar idea. Perhaps Vanessa can open an account on, say, Deviant art, Furaffinity, etc. and just occaisionally put up a piece of artwork. Maybe a single comic page, some sketches, a pinup or two, character reference sheets that sort of thing. The kind of thing you normally see in a free preview and certainly won't give anything major away. Just have it in a place more people will frequent.
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I agree with the idea that both the site and the comic should be promoted more.I only found about about PBB becuase of an offhand remark that someone made on furry newsgroup a year or so ago about the comic and how good it was.I was very suprised that Vanessa was drawing it.While I knew of Vanessa' art from years ago,I had kind of lost track of her when own website site kind of shut down.I wasn't too big a fan of the Vixine comic,so I had no idea that PBB was going on there(since I didn't subscribe to that site).Yeah.I had heard of PBB being posted to the various "chan" siteboards.Something like that is very difficult to prevent,since each time one of those boards get's shut down,it's back under a different URL within a day or so.Anyway,I'll do my best to spead the word of PBB amoung some connections I have in furdom. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happy birthday, Vanessa, I'll do what I can to help promote this great work of yours as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vanessa wrote:
Oh boy! The 24th was my birthday and you opened this topic that is like a gift!


Well, I'm late as usual, but would still like to jump on the band-wagon. Belated Happy Birthday!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kommy wrote:


As for advertising and getting the word out... Well, no offense to anyone here or their creative abilities, but I think Vanessa's own artwork is the biggest selling point. I like the avatar idea. Perhaps Vanessa can open an account on, say, Deviant art, Furaffinity, etc. and just occaisionally put up a piece of artwork. Maybe a single comic page, some sketches, a pinup or two, character reference sheets that sort of thing. The kind of thing you normally see in a free preview and certainly won't give anything major away. Just have it in a place more people will frequent.

The idea is to get people to become members of PBB,not to look at our creations about Bon Bon,but to get them interested in Vanessa's work.The thought was that we can use the free preview with some stories writen by whoever is willing to put his/hers artisitic talent to good use and post them not just on a few furry sites,but on as many as we can find.Don't leave anything to chance Wink
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