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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Given Mary is knowledgeable to use a type writer I sometimes wonder the extent of her education. I mean I'm not doubting she has some book smarts or education, but was she home schooled or did Simon teach her. I don't recall anyone mentioning anything about school or anything.


More than likely, Simon employed a few different tutors to educate Mary. Even if BonBon has a schooling facility, I doubt Simon would've let Mary leave the property to attend it.

Simon may be, uh... over protective, but I highly doubt he's the kind of father to neglect Mary. I'd wager she has as much of an education as any other person. Her solitude would merely make for a lack of social experience.



That being said, I'm genuinely curious about the matter of children in BonBon and their raising. It's clear that they aren't sheltered from much of what goes on in BonBon, as seen in an earlier issue when Betty is shown as a child making her way through the town, and even working at the Delight Castle. Obviously, the residents of BonBon still keep certain activities to private locations, to a certain extent, as we've seen various times through out the comic; but I'd love to hear more about the general structure and social standards of BonBon. What other important laws are there, what is acceptable and not acceptable in public view, how are children handled when born in or moving to BonBon? What about BonBon's history? Why was it founded? Was it always the town of pleasure? I'm sure there's much more that could be asked...
Oh yeah, i would like to know how Simon and Edlweiss met. How they were when they first met and what drove them apart. Maybe Vanessa should dedicate an issue to tell their story.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Such things may be better suited to smaller posts, like the Mini BonBon additions. I think it would suit better, without further slowing the comic.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silvador wrote:
Such things may be better suited to smaller posts, like the Mini BonBon additions. I think it would suit better, without further slowing the comic.
Yeah. Perhaps that would be best. I wonder if Edelweiss will end up making her return sometime in one of the later issues?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New page is up. Could Mary run into Edelweiss if she goes to Australia?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Err...

In the first panel, the word 'You' by Simon is messed up.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Err...

In the first panel, the word 'You' by Simon is messed up.


It's simply a spacing issue. That can be fixed with either a hyphen or re-spacing the words in the bubble.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, suddenly my character has an actual reason. For being out in Bon Bon, given that he headed out that way after working in Australia for several years.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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New page is up. Could Mary run into Edelweiss if she goes to Australia?


What possible reason could she have for running into Edelweiss there? Australia is but a fraction of the entire populated area of the planet. She could be anywhere. The odds of randomly bumping into her there, of all places, is ludicrously low. Not to mention, it's unlikely that such a trip would actually happen, given the current state of affairs going on in BonBon. And let's not forget the time period; it's 1895 (iirc), and one needs to take into account what sort of place Australia was in the late 1800's. I doubt it was much of a tourist attraction just yet.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firstly, I used the word if to indicate a possibility not an absolute on whether Mary would go to Australia. Secondly, most comic books,manga,manwha,manhua,etc. tend to use these subplots for later uses often leading to either something heartfelt or intriguing or both. Third, Could you point out anything other than the upcoming wedding as to the state of affairs because I haven't seen anything to indicate otherwise. Lastly, don't talk about being "realistic" when your sona knows all martial arts and the reality is that many Asian countries are fighting for their independence from Westerners.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excuse me?! When the F did I ever say my character knows "all martial arts"? And when did I ever mention "realism"?

As for the current state of affairs, let's see.... the wedding aside, there is Mary and Betty's friendship. Do you really think Mary is going to go gallivanting off to the other side of the world when she has only just gotten a chance to meet with her only real friend after all these years? There is the fact that Mary is the heir to the Delight Castle, and, oh yes, the relationship between Red and Betty. It's quite clear Red is more interested in the mouse than the cat. Going to Australia literally drops the ENTIRE comic and starts on a whole new story, unless for some ludicrous reason Simon, Betty, Wilson and every other major character just happens to go to Australia at the same time. Not every word said in a comic means something or is some kind of foreshadowing.

As for being "realistic", you have no more place to tell me off for talking about such things. Let's not forget that this entire COMIC is "unrealistic".

Use your head and look at the situation, and then look at the future prospects of the story, what it is leading to and the ultimate goal of the tale. For twelve years, the timeline in this comic has progressed at best a month, maybe two. How long do you think it takes to travel across the world to Australia in 1895? Sea travel wasn't the budding hop, skip and a jump it is today. People didn't just "go a million miles" because they could, in the late 1800's, it took entirely too much time and money. You think Mary would skip over to Australia, visit whoever, and then be back by week's end? More than likely it would be a month's trip overall, at the shortest. Three to four months, more likely.

And your "if" is irrelevant. One might wonder IF Mary might meet Edelweiss around the next corner. Or IF Betty sleeps with Simon in the next chapter. There's no point wondering IF when the chance of it actually occurring is zilch.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't know Mary had Grandparents, this is a bit of a strange twist that has been pulled on the story. Hopefully the plot doesn't take a radical turn off into a whole new subplot with Mary's grandmother. cause that would just seam kind of weird to include. I wonder who her grandparents are anyway?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(( Hey Silv,

Being as we don't really know where Bon Bon is, I think the idea of a trip to Australia would be pretty awesome, and could lead to a number of serious story parts, including Red and marriage. Shoot, for all we know, Bon Bon could be in Hong Kong or someplace like that.

I mean, at best, Bon Bon is... somewhere in Europe. And I'm solely basing that on the architectural style and flora/fauna seen in the city. So, why not have Mary make a crazy rush to the train station, in order to catch The Orient Express... take a trip across Europe to Constantinople or something, catch a ship through the Dardanelles, across the Mediterranean, and through the Suez. In the process she can stop off at exotic locals in Eastern Europe, the Near East, Africa, India, and Indochina, all in order to get to Australia. I mean, the whole thing practically screams "Around the World in 88 Days!" Not to mention it would be a wicked-fun way to have a few of the other Royals participate. We have train engineers, gun slingers, merchants, pilots, journalists, photographers, and ships captains who would make a fantastic entourage to Mary's adventures across Europe.

Sure, it would take a long time, but that could be part of the story. Maybe Mary convinces Red to go with her to Australia, as she refuses to marry before she can meet her Grandparents... somewhat as an act of defiance and delay, as maybe she's having some second thoughts due to a conversation she overheard or Violet giving her some sincere and honest concerns. And, along the way, various women are ensnared by the trip in one way or another, causing Red to have to both balance his bride-to-be Mary, with the bevy of women across the globe. Not to mention that several of the Royals do look like they may be from the Orient, Near East, or the penal colonies of Australia.

And, not to mention, it might also be a time for Mary to experiment and discover herself... including the possibility that Wilson quits being such a dork and actually starts acting normally to her, resulting in a love tetrahedron of sorts. Mind you, I'm not a fan of Red... at all. I'd rather just about anyone win Mary's heart over that snake-in-the-grass.

Anyway, I think the whole idea of a trip to Australia would be an awesome way to expand the Bon Bon universe. Anyway, just some quick thoughts from myself.))
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OH SNAP!!! Here comes the storm, brace yourselves!!! Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What storm?

And get rid of that damned icon! I have a 1680x1050 screen and it's literally filling half of it! >:C
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silvador wrote:
What storm?

And get rid of that damned icon! I have a 1680x1050 screen and it's literally filling half of it! >:C


don't you realize that I've been trying to shrink it. I need help from someone who knows how to.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rikardo wrote:
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What storm?

And get rid of that damned icon! I have a 1680x1050 screen and it's literally filling half of it! >:C


don't you realize that I've been trying to shrink it. I need help from someone who knows how to.


https://ezgif.com/resize

BAM! 2 seconds on Google.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silvador wrote:
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Silvador wrote:
What storm?

And get rid of that damned icon! I have a 1680x1050 screen and it's literally filling half of it! >:C


don't you realize that I've been trying to shrink it. I need help from someone who knows how to.


https://ezgif.com/resize

BAM! 2 seconds on Google.


changed it to my Comic series logo, ith link if you like to see it
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The next page has been uploaded. Made me a little bit sad after reading it, poor Edelweiss and poor Mary. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i do wonder what William is thinking about, given he does have a little more info to go by. i wonder if he'll talk to Mary
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does William actually know the full story? I don't think he does.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Betty did tell him her plan, so he might have got a little info from that, but then again im not sure. and if he does would he do anything? its kinda up in the air right now.
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I don't know if Betty would be willing to trust him with such a secret. He's still too much of an unknown to her.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is true. But there is still one thing that I almost forgot about: William asked for the day off to send a telegram to Dorian initially but got distracted by Mary's want to tag along, her subsequent leaving him, him getting kid napped by Sakura, the sex he had with the 6 girls of the delight castle, and the announcement made afterwards. I do wonder if forgetting to send that will nip him in the butt later on. I think the reason was to tell Dorian about Red returning and possibly revealing that William isn't really gay, thus giving Red ammo to use against William later on.
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That is true. But there is still one thing that I almost forgot about: William asked for the day off to send a telegram to Dorian initially but got distracted by Mary's want to tag along, her subsequent leaving him, him getting kid napped by Sakura, the sex he had with the 6 girls of the delight castle, and the announcement made afterwards. I do wonder if forgetting to send that will nip him in the butt later on. I think the reason was to tell Dorian about Red returning and possibly revealing that William isn't really gay, thus giving Red ammo to use against William later on.


There certainly was a lot going on for him. There's a good chance and reason to presume he would've forgotten about the telegram.

However, we don't know what happened between the time he and Mary left the Delight Castle and them arriving back at Blue Manor. It's entirely possible that they did other things about town. Perhaps he did get to send the telegram. Only time will tell.

But, given circumstances, I am inclined to suspect that it completely slipped his mind.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's bluffing! It's obvious to me that Simeon is hiding the truth from Mary. I've had a gut feeling of this since day one.
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He's bluffing! It's obvious to me that Simeon is hiding the truth from Mary. I've had a gut feeling of this since day one.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He's bluffing! It's obvious to me that Simeon is hiding the truth from Mary. I've had a gut feeling of this since day one.


Already established in issue 9 when he had Edelweiss exiled.
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DesertWolf wrote:
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He's bluffing! It's obvious to me that Simeon is hiding the truth from Mary. I've had a gut feeling of this since day one.


Already established in issue 9 when he had Edelweiss exiled.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello readers,
Sorry for the absence from the forum, but as I have explained on other occasions I spend very little time on internet and when I write, drawing and coloring , I'm concentrated only on that. But sometimes I read the forum, and I recover months that I've lost in one occasion. Today I'm reading this thread from beginning to end and it is very enjoyable to read your discussions. I would like to answer some questions that have been raised. The first case : Australia. Simon told Red that his parents, the only grandparents of Mary, are in Australia. On pag. 27, Chapter # 11. So I am surprised that you were amazed about the honeymoon destination of Mary and Red, you did not study eh eh eh!
http://www.pleasurebonbon.com/members/comics11_VS/BB11_27.html

About the telegram, William think of it on pag.9 from Chapter # 13. http://www.pleasurebonbon.com/members/comics13_XR/old13/BB13_09.html
Do not worry, it is sent out , you'll see;)

Oh, and there's something important about the last pages of this chapter # 16 ...
Apparently you will see this chapter finish on page 19, but I want to add 3 or 4 pages of sex with Betty and Violet and some customers before "The End".
But this time I will not choose who will be the customers as a cameo.
I made all possible cameos with royal members in the past and I should devote myself to create new avatar from the list, which is pending for a long period of time.
I am also constantly receiving request of commissions, from different places (deviantart, furaffinity, facebook, email ...).
But all that is required can not be satisfied because PBB always has priority over my work, I mean: accepting to draw commissions = not draw PBB pages in the meantime. And that is bad... I think.

So I decided to do the last 3-4 pages of PBB as commissions.
By the way: your character here.

Therefore you will see these pages published in the comics gallery as sketches (as previews, work in progress) with the texts, and in the meantime I will go on starting Chapter # 17.
If within a certain time no one will want to buy these commissions then I'll still do them with generic characters from comic background.
Just you will wait a bit more to see them Smile .

The commission will be open to anyone, even those who have not yet an avatar. But it will be required to be members of the site.
Since all the transactions take place directly with me, with my personal email and my Paypal, I want to to deal with a trusted customer of PBB site.
Also these commissions will include the credits on the published pages and ONLY the customers will receive (for the first time) the pds of the pages, with levels at 300 dpi (so this is a very professional commission).

But first, I need to talk about it in a specific topic, with all the details, that have to be approved by Ronald of course. Meanwhile I have given you the idea and anticipation Wink
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Vanessa wrote:
Hello readers,
Sorry for the absence from the forum, but as I have explained on other occasions I spend very little time on internet and when I write, drawing and coloring , I'm concentrated only on that. But sometimes I read the forum, and I recover months that I've lost in one occasion. Today I'm reading this thread from beginning to end and it is very enjoyable to read your discussions. I would like to answer some questions that have been raised. The first case : Australia. Simon told Red that his parents, the only grandparents of Mary, are in Australia. On pag. 27, Chapter # 11. So I am surprised that you were amazed about the honeymoon destination of Mary and Red, you did not study eh eh eh!
http://www.pleasurebonbon.com/members/comics11_VS/BB11_27.html

About the telegram, William think of it on pag.9 from Chapter # 13. http://www.pleasurebonbon.com/members/comics13_XR/old13/BB13_09.html
Do not worry, it is sent out , you'll see;)

Oh, and there's something important about the last pages of this chapter # 16 ...
Apparently you will see this chapter finish on page 19, but I want to add 3 or 4 pages of sex with Betty and Violet and some customers before "The End".
But this time I will not choose who will be the customers as a cameo.
I made all possible cameos with royal members in the past and I should devote myself to create new avatar from the list, which is pending for a long period of time.
I am also constantly receiving request of commissions, from different places (deviantart, furaffinity, facebook, email ...).
But all that is required can not be satisfied because PBB always has priority over my work, I mean: accepting to draw commissions = not draw PBB pages in the meantime. And that is bad... I think.

So I decided to do the last 3-4 pages of PBB as commissions.
By the way: your character here.

Therefore you will see these pages published in the comics gallery as sketches (as previews, work in progress) with the texts, and in the meantime I will go on starting Chapter # 17.
If within a certain time no one will want to buy these commissions then I'll still do them with generic characters from comic background.
Just you will wait a bit more to see them Smile .

The commission will be open to anyone, even those who have not yet an avatar. But it will be required to be members of the site.
Since all the transactions take place directly with me, with my personal email and my Paypal, I want to to deal with a trusted customer of PBB site.
Also these commissions will include the credits on the published pages and ONLY the customers will receive (for the first time) the pds of the pages, with levels at 300 dpi (so this is a very professional commission).

But first, I need to talk about it in a specific topic, with all the details, that have to be approved by Ronald of course. Meanwhile I have given you the idea and anticipation Wink


I woudn't mind having Rikarda join in in the mix. If male, then it's pegging if that's allowed. It's okay if it's lesbian. Perhaps Rikarda using her fan feeldoe on Kiala Neith if she's interested. Anything to wrap up the ballet thing from Issue 13. Kiala might want to sample Rikarda's warm-up, just as Prunella had done to Rikarda, you know what I'm saying? Twisted Evil

I've asked Kiala not long after writing this, and despite being no longer able to go to PBB's website because her country banned it, she wouldn't mind at all for my avatar and hers to do a lesbian scene.
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