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I'm about to beat it, and after playing it I have to say it is the best game I have, the swordplay is great, and it reveals how everything started. If you own a wii and are a true zelda fan I strongly suggest you get this game.
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When you say 'reveals how everything started', does that mean that it shows alot about the story. Or maybe even show some kind of chronological order that the games come in?
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Yup I've been able to link all of them together now, Twilight Princess has a strong connection to this game, if you play SS or get it you'll see what I mean by that. It is basically the beginning of the legend, it ties all of them up one way or another.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Arcanus wrote: | | Yup I've been able to link all of them together now, Twilight Princess has a strong connection to this game, if you play SS or get it you'll see what I mean by that. It is basically the beginning of the legend, it ties all of them up one way or another. |
I find this VERY hard to believe.
Beginning of the legend... There is no "beginning". Each LoZ story is more or less a stand alone story in and of itself, with the exception of a couple of them.
They all run along virtually the same path. They're just different variations of the same story. There is no beginning. There is no connecting. If ANY LoZ game has a "beginning" to go back to it is LttP. That's about the ONLY LoZ game that has a solid backstory to it.
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Yes but this game takes place 1000 years before hyrule was made and before the master sword was forged, no one has even heard of the triforce yet except a small group of people, it explains why the triforce was created, what it was SUPPOSED to be used for and in the game you forge the master sword. This one legend branches off into the other legends. It also explains why only link can wield the master sword and why him and zelda are constantly reborn. And if I do remember right the director of the games himself said in an interview that this is the start of the legend itself. So if that isn't enough to say that it is the beginning then you have to play it and find out for yourself.
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For the moment, I'll take stock in what you said and purchase the game.
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| Arcanus wrote: | | Yes but this game takes place 1000 years before hyrule was made and before the master sword was forged, no one has even heard of the triforce yet except a small group of people, it explains why the triforce was created, what it was SUPPOSED to be used for and in the game you forge the master sword. This one legend branches off into the other legends. It also explains why only link can wield the master sword and why him and zelda are constantly reborn. And if I do remember right the director of the games himself said in an interview that this is the start of the legend itself. So if that isn't enough to say that it is the beginning then you have to play it and find out for yourself. |
Sounds like a cheap excuse to me.
I have had great faight in past Zelda games and my faith has been rewarded. But this game makes me wary and I think I will try it before I buy it.
This "back to the beginning" business sounds like a poor attempt to slap plot onto an entire series of games that needed no plot. To be quite honest, I'm beiginning to smell another Driver: San Francisco. 
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Silv, don't judge it till you have actually played it. Half the fun is in not knowing what you are stepping into. Otherwise its not much of an adventure.
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| Silvador wrote: | I find this VERY hard to believe.
Beginning of the legend... There is no "beginning". Each LoZ story is more or less a stand alone story in and of itself, with the exception of a couple of them.
They all run along virtually the same path. They're just different variations of the same story. There is no beginning. There is no connecting. If ANY LoZ game has a "beginning" to go back to it is LttP. That's about the ONLY LoZ game that has a solid backstory to it. |
All game are a stand alone but the games are in Hyrule and there are a timeline. Most Zelda game are chronologically linked to an another.
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link happen many seasons after the legend of Zelda. This was stated in the manual. Link awakening happen shortly after a link to the past. Majora's mask happen very shortly after ocarina of time. Oracle of Ages and Oracle of Seasons take place one after the other. I am still not sure which one is the first. The wind maker happen several hundred years after Ocarina of time. Four swords adventures happen years after four sword according to the back of the box. The minish cap happen long before this two games and before A link to the past. The Phantom hourglass happen no more that a year after The wind maker Spirit track happen more that a hundred years after Phantom Hourglass and apparently Skyward sword start it all.
I doubt we can said that it is an exception when the different Zelda game are chronologically connected. True the timeline is loose and not hardly definite but it is to allow place for new game to enter easily in the timeline.
Je ne crois pas que Skyward Sword va être un problème chronologique.
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| Catherine_Puce wrote: |
All game are a stand alone but the games are in Hyrule and there are a timeline. Most Zelda game are chronologically linked to an another.
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link happen many seasons after the legend of Zelda. This was stated in the manual. Link awakening happen shortly after a link to the past. Majora's mask happen very shortly after ocarina of time. Oracle of Ages and Oracle of Seasons take place one after the other. I am still not sure which one is the first. The wind maker happen several hundred years after Ocarina of time. Four swords adventures happen years after four sword according to the back of the box. The minish cap happen long before this two games and before A link to the past. The Phantom hourglass happen no more that a year after The wind maker Spirit track happen more that a hundred years after Phantom Hourglass and apparently Skyward sword start it all.
I doubt we can said that it is an exception when the different Zelda game are chronologically connected. True the timeline is loose and not hardly definite but it is to allow place for new game to enter easily in the timeline.
Je ne crois pas que Skyward Sword va être un problème chronologique.
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Right... I'm just going to go over here now and forget you tried explaining that pile of BS. Excuse me while I play a game with a solid backstory rather than a flimsy excuse for making another game.
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Ok, that just tears it. If you got any actual contructive conversation material to dish out silv, then I'm willing to hear it, but nobody wants to hear the BS spilling out of your mouth whenever we have to listen to that self indulgent, pessimistic, pugnacious ego of yours. Whether info like Catherine's info is solid or not, instead of calling it false, then maybe you could actually try to prove her wrong by stating the fallacies in the logic she brought forth.
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| Rune174 wrote: | | instead of calling it false |
Try learning to read before shooting off your mouth, Rune. I at no point in time said anything Cat said was false.
Aside from a small handful of the games, the "connections" between the games that Cat outlined are just a pile of crap, as far as I am concerned, and as flimsy as wet cardboard. For one, these "connections" do not explain the vast changes to the landscape nor the repeated use of the same characters. OK, so Link and Zelda are reborn. Does that mean Epona and other characters that are frequently used in the games get reborn as well? Just how to entire forest rise up or vanish in the space of a coupel hundred years? Or entire mountain ranges shift from one side of the landscape to the other? These types of changes take THOUSANDS of years, if not, more, to take place. Does some wizard come along every few hundres years and just uproot the entire land of Hyrule and re-arrange it? What about the temples and dungeons? Do new ones just spring up every couple of hundred years? Oh, the temples have been looted of the treasures. We must build new temples to hide our stolen treasures in.
Give me a break.
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For the forest, it is quite common to see forest vanish in a short period. Clearcutting logging method did it several time in the past. You just need a large number of lumberjack at the Zelda level of technology. A forest can grow in two or three decade if we give her the occasion. In can depend of the climate and the species of trees but there are no big problem with that.
For the character names, how many time you will find the name john, james, mary or william if you go in your genealogical tree or in the history book. Some names are uses generation after generation.
For the mountains I agree that this is suspicious. I have few explanations about it. This is one of the few changes that humankind cannot do with a high level of technology.
The temples and dungeons are easier to explain. Many are invaded by monsters. They are not maintained properly. Without renovation a building can collapse without problem. How many ruins archaeologists discover by digging because nothing above the surface had survived to the time? I know place where old building were destroyed stone by stone to sure them to build new building. There also still some monster running around after. They could easily raid and burn place and village that they thing still content riches. At the image of the barbarian of the old time.
I agree for the mountains, that look suspicious except if we enter the magic variable but everything else can be explained if you look at it and think a little.
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